As to me reading that Bill Gates' wife left him because he caught STD from eastern women on Epstein's island [1] makes me glad I never jumped on the Billy Boy cheerleading squad.
Apparently the founder of Microsoft caught viruses as easily as Windows.
[1] it's not exactly how she framed it but we can connect the dots: email leaks shows he got STD from easter women he met through Epstein, Billy Boy probably lied to her wife at first, then she got STD too, went to the doctor, learn she had a STD and now says: "His relation with Epstein is why we got divorced". That's not far-fetched and has to be close to what happened. Until she literally means Billy Boy and Jeffrey were gay but I doubt it.
It really is quite amazing and disgusting how truly interconnected so many of the 'celebrity' figures were tied to Epstein's network, all of them working to undermine our institutions in assistance to an absolutely heinous individual. None of the rich or wealthy have any actual morals or any sort of sensibilities, it's all just a facade.
So many intellectuals that appear to dedicate their lives to developing coherent and consistent models of how to think and how to act in this world, who nonetheless decided that conversing with a known child rapist is A-OK.
The only people I've seen who have come out ahead morally are Nassim Taleb and Norman Finkelstein.
People have personae. They can have good and bad sides. On the evening news parents or neighbors will often say “he seemed like a nice kid; I never saw him do anything bad.” About some kid (or older adult) now being involved in some crime.
Don’t make heroes out of people. Many have significant flaws, even unforgivable flaws.
Something I think we should teach ourselves to do is never believe we know someone until we see their character tested. It's very easy to present as having good character under typical circumstances, but much harder when you're pressured by stress, duress, lust, impulse, or other forces. A good measure of someone's character is how they respond to these things, not only how they function in ideal circumstances.
Of course, there are more common measures like how they treat people they don't necessarily need to respect, but even that can be conjured on demand according to situational needs by cunning people. Getting to know people and drawing conclusions about them should be a longer process than it tends to be.
Money and sycophancy also corrupt behavior. Another measure of character, is the response to being broke.
In any case Bill Cosby on TV was a good role model -in life, out of the public eye, he was a bad dude who drugged and SA'd victims. The public has little chance to "know" him. One might hear rumors but one needs factual info to make judgements.
> On the evening news parents or neighbors will often say “he seemed like a nice kid; I never saw him do anything bad.”
If you're ever interviewed by the news, you have a moral imperitive to say "They were always such a good kid. I would have never suspected this." regardless of if you know the kid, or you would have suspected it. A) who needs reporters in neighborhoods digging up dirt like this. B) if it were you, or your kids, you'd want people to say the same thing for you.
Well, when I hear "people have personae" I'd imagine something like "This person is an esteemed professor at MIT but he's also a regular in erotic fanfiction forum," not "he's friends with a child sex trafficker."
Gives a whole new meaning to Manufacturing Consent.
I'm just glad I never jumped on the Chomsky cheerleading squad.
As to me reading that Bill Gates' wife left him because he caught STD from eastern women on Epstein's island [1] makes me glad I never jumped on the Billy Boy cheerleading squad.
Apparently the founder of Microsoft caught viruses as easily as Windows.
[1] it's not exactly how she framed it but we can connect the dots: email leaks shows he got STD from easter women he met through Epstein, Billy Boy probably lied to her wife at first, then she got STD too, went to the doctor, learn she had a STD and now says: "His relation with Epstein is why we got divorced". That's not far-fetched and has to be close to what happened. Until she literally means Billy Boy and Jeffrey were gay but I doubt it.
Labor exploiting rich lady is the real victim.
Bill building Microsoft into a predatory corporation found to be a monopoly in court was cool with Melinda.
These people are Jerry Springer trash too. Media has convinced us otherwise, that's all.
It really is quite amazing and disgusting how truly interconnected so many of the 'celebrity' figures were tied to Epstein's network, all of them working to undermine our institutions in assistance to an absolutely heinous individual. None of the rich or wealthy have any actual morals or any sort of sensibilities, it's all just a facade.
Truly a massive disappointment.
So many intellectuals that appear to dedicate their lives to developing coherent and consistent models of how to think and how to act in this world, who nonetheless decided that conversing with a known child rapist is A-OK.
The only people I've seen who have come out ahead morally are Nassim Taleb and Norman Finkelstein.
People have personae. They can have good and bad sides. On the evening news parents or neighbors will often say “he seemed like a nice kid; I never saw him do anything bad.” About some kid (or older adult) now being involved in some crime.
Don’t make heroes out of people. Many have significant flaws, even unforgivable flaws.
Something I think we should teach ourselves to do is never believe we know someone until we see their character tested. It's very easy to present as having good character under typical circumstances, but much harder when you're pressured by stress, duress, lust, impulse, or other forces. A good measure of someone's character is how they respond to these things, not only how they function in ideal circumstances.
Of course, there are more common measures like how they treat people they don't necessarily need to respect, but even that can be conjured on demand according to situational needs by cunning people. Getting to know people and drawing conclusions about them should be a longer process than it tends to be.
Money and sycophancy also corrupt behavior. Another measure of character, is the response to being broke.
In any case Bill Cosby on TV was a good role model -in life, out of the public eye, he was a bad dude who drugged and SA'd victims. The public has little chance to "know" him. One might hear rumors but one needs factual info to make judgements.
> On the evening news parents or neighbors will often say “he seemed like a nice kid; I never saw him do anything bad.”
If you're ever interviewed by the news, you have a moral imperitive to say "They were always such a good kid. I would have never suspected this." regardless of if you know the kid, or you would have suspected it. A) who needs reporters in neighborhoods digging up dirt like this. B) if it were you, or your kids, you'd want people to say the same thing for you.
Well, when I hear "people have personae" I'd imagine something like "This person is an esteemed professor at MIT but he's also a regular in erotic fanfiction forum," not "he's friends with a child sex trafficker."
And Jim Simons also comes out of this looking good.
Were there comms between them or one referencing the other?
There was a comm where Peter attia asks Epstein if he knows Simons. Epstein replied, never met him.
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